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    Posted: 20 Oct 2007 at 11:21am
http://apnews.myway.com//article/20071020/D8SCMP2G0.html


http://www.newsweek.com/id/50787

I didn't see that coming! I was so buried in the books' plots that I never even thought about it! I guess that will give some people more fuel for their banning fires.
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never saw it either. Maybe he is maybe not. I was so caught up in the plot too.
this could even be a publicity ploy......stirring the pot(cauldren).....which is fine with me, I love harry potter books and JK Rowling is an amazing woman/author.




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Originally posted by gourdy gourdy wrote:

never saw it either. Maybe he is maybe not. I was so caught up in the plot too.
this could even be a publicity ploy......stirring the pot(cauldren).....which is fine with me, I love harry potter books and JK Rowling is an amazing woman/author.




 
ditto this.  didn't see it coming...
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Ok after thinking about this for a while doing the morning chores........
aaaaaggghhhhh!!!! Dumbledore  even  DTD!Wink Isn't he like 400 years Old?
Better knock the dust off! on the other hand being one of the best wizards ever , I guess it would be DARN amazing!lol

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My thoughts?  Who cares?  
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I kinda agree with Rebecca. I'm a Christian who really likes the books, and if this information isn't included in any of the books themselves, then why is it even relevant?

Dumbledore is a fictional character in a book. If the book doesn't call him gay, is he really gay? At some point, doesn't the author put the control in the hands of the reader if he/she is not explicit? There's a philosophical question for ya. It kinda reminds me of the whole "if a tree falls in the forest, but no one is there to hear it, does it really make a sound?" question.
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Originally posted by RebeccaL RebeccaL wrote:

My thoughts?  Who cares?  
 
Yeah, that. 
 
Reminds me of a friend who "came out" when we were in college.  He expressed surprise at my calm reaction.  I told him "Hate to break it to you, dude, I wasn't planning on sleeping with you, anyway, so why should I care all that much?"
 
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Originally posted by ziegl027 ziegl027 wrote:

Originally posted by RebeccaL RebeccaL wrote:

My thoughts?  Who cares?  
 
Yeah, that. 
 
Reminds me of a friend who "came out" when we were in college.  He expressed surprise at my calm reaction.  I told him "Hate to break it to you, dude, I wasn't planning on sleeping with you, anyway, so why should I care all that much?"
 
Now the guy who announced he wanted to be a woman shortly after we broke up......That left a mark Embarrassed


The only friend I had a problem with when he came out was that he suddenly thought that it was acceptable to discuss intricate details of his sex life.  Okay, Okay, I get it, you're getting laid, but the discussion doesn't really need to go  beyong gettin' some or not gettin' some.
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I thought it was hilarious when I saw it on the news this morning. I'm not sure what makes this "newsworthy." Like Kristin pointed out, the author's opinion isn't really all that important if the details aren't spelled out in the book. (Yes, I'm taking literary theory right now.) It's called the intentional fallacy--the idea that the opinion/interpretation of the author really means something. Really, a reader's interpretation is just as valid as the author's. The text is a text. Once those words are on the page, they're free game. Wink

It's interesting to hear Rowling's take on the matter, but whoever turned it into a news story was obviously not a theorist.
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And the detail of Dumbledore being gay wasn't in the books.  That means it wasn't important to the story.
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Originally posted by RebeccaL RebeccaL wrote:

My thoughts?  Who cares?  
 
ITA.... It's relevant to the story - who thinks of this stuff?
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Meh. I don't care. I just figured he was eccentric like all the other Wizards.  Now Christian Coalition will just say its teaching kids to be Gay Witches. Whatever.
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Originally posted by taycia taycia wrote:

Meh. I don't care. I just figured he was eccentric like all the other Wizards.  Now Christian Coalition will just say its teaching kids to be Gay Witches. Whatever.


Well, they aren't doing a good job of that considering all the snogging going on in the hallways.  LOL
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i think it's ridiculous.  seriously, what in the world is she doing?  i don't get it.  she doesn't need the publicity.  but what other reason to keep doing all these post series character reveals?  yet i don't think she's doing it for the publicity.  maybe she's having a hard time letting go of the series?  i don't know, but i don't think it's fair to the readers.  we don't need everything spelled out for us. 

i personally always thought of him as a rather god-like being, kind of asexual.  and i really resent her for taking that away!  if it was important and relevant she should have written it in the books. 



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Originally posted by Emily M. Emily M. wrote:

i think it's ridiculous.  seriously, what in the world is she doing?  i don't get it.  she doesn't need the publicity.  but what other reason to keep doing all these post series character reveals?  yet i don't think she's doing it for the publicity.  maybe she's having a hard time letting go of the series?  i don't know, but i don't think it's fair to the readers.  we don't need everything spelled out for us.  i personally always thought of him as a rather god-like being, kind of asexual.  and i really resent her for taking that away!  if it was important and relevant she should have written it in the books. 


That is actually how I saw him too. . . as being a bit of a holy man, and therefore chaste. *shrug* I guess he still could be.
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Originally posted by luckycharm luckycharm wrote:

I thought it was hilarious when I saw it on the news this morning. I'm not sure what makes this "newsworthy." Like Kristin pointed out, the author's opinion isn't really all that important if the details aren't spelled out in the book. (Yes, I'm taking literary theory right now.) It's called the intentional fallacy--the idea that the opinion/interpretation of the author really means something. Really, a reader's interpretation is just as valid as the author's. The text is a text. Once those words are on the page, they're free game. Wink

It's interesting to hear Rowling's take on the matter, but whoever turned it into a news story was obviously not a theorist.


I agree! Anything details that aren't spelled out for me in the books, I will fill in for myself. Gay really doesn't fit with the way I imagined Dumbledore. Now that I've read them, I feel like I've lived them, and I'm not going to go back and redefine everything I've experienced in this new context. It's different when someone discloses that they are gay. When my uncle told me, I kind of already knew.
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When reading the books, it occurred to me for a second that maybe Dumbledore had a "thing" for McGonagall. I'm glad that he's gay though. My kids don't have the privilege of knowing any real gay people.

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Originally posted by luckycharm luckycharm wrote:

(Yes, I'm taking literary theory right now.) It's called the intentional fallacy--the idea that the opinion/interpretation of the author really means something. Really, a reader's interpretation is just as valid as the author's. The text is a text. Once those words are on the page, they're free game. Wink
 
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meh, like RebeccaL said: who cares?  Does it really change how YOU as the reader interpret the books?  Will it stop you from re-reading them?  I think not.  I personally saw him as eccentric, but what WIzard in that world ISN'T eccentric in some way (think Neville's Grandmother as an extreme case).  Would it have changed your view if she said that  McGonagall was gay, or that Sirius was a Flamer?? Probably not, because it isn't a relevent detail. so I tend to agree that it was an outside 'plot' force to stir up publicity.
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