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   CD'ing for 1.5 years - i love it!  but i have been having some problems.  

background:

- combination of OS, PF and fitteds

- top loader (very old, but works)

- switching between tide and charlie's (can't seem to find the right fit)

- i have quite hard water

problems:

1) stinkiness!  i've read a number of other posts on this; they back up my experience.  i think not rinsing well enough, plus bacteria build-up have caused this.  so i tend to rinse A LOT.  i switched from the charlie's back to the tide and did extra washes and rinses.  this helped with the stink, but i still have some STINKY after an overnight diaper (12 hours), even in the PF and fitted.

2)has my over-rinsing caused this problem?  the MOST frustrating thing of all - the PUL on all my OS is totally shot!  12 diapers, less than a year old are completely useless.  (yes, sometimes it makes me want to cry.)

i'm sure this is all related to washing / detergent / rinsing.  

please help...?

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plt Just Pinned Yearlong Pinner 1 year 79 days Joined: 03 Sep 2008 Posts: 3	Topic: 2 probs: stinky + PUL fail Posted: 18 Nov 2009 at 9:20pm
	CD'ing for 1.5 years - i love it! but i have been having some problems. background: - combination of OS, PF and fitteds - top loader (very old, but works) - switching between tide and charlie's (can't seem to find the right fit) - i have quite hard water problems: 1) stinkiness! i've read a number of other posts on this; they back up my experience. i think not rinsing well enough, plus bacteria build-up have caused this. so i tend to rinse A LOT. i switched from the charlie's back to the tide and did extra washes and rinses. this helped with the stink, but i still have some STINKY after an overnight diaper (12 hours), even in the PF and fitted. 2)has my over-rinsing caused this problem? the MOST frustrating thing of all - the PUL on all my OS is totally shot! 12 diapers, less than a year old are completely useless. (yes, sometimes it makes me want to cry.) i'm sure this is all related to washing / detergent / rinsing. please help...?
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taycia P'incredible Perennial Pinner 3 years 44 days Joined: 09 Oct 2006 Location: MONTANA!!! Posts: 4239	Posted: 18 Nov 2009 at 9:31pm
	have you tried a touch of bleach in the wash? I know that 'they' say you shouldn't, but you only need 1/4 C at the most to kill the nasties in your diapers maybe once a month or so. That is honestly what fixed our problems on top of switching to Tide exclusively for diaper laundry because it seemed to work the best for us, and we have fairly hard water as well. i don't know what to say about the PUL on your OS AIO?? I would contact the company and see if it was possibly a bad batch if they are still fairly new.
	Taycia "The surest way for a mother to get her children's attention is to sit down and put her feet up." mommy to Josephine (10-5-02), Izaak (10-3-05), and Hannah (4-19-08)
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Tornado P'integral Member Rating(33) P'insane Yearlong Pinner 1 year 143 days Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Location: Lurking Posts: 7511	Posted: 19 Nov 2009 at 8:58am
	I have had the same issue with the PUL on quite a few of my diaps as well. I figure it was due to drying them in the dryer, so i started to hang dry anything with PUL. Sorry to hear about you losing your diapers i know how you feel.
	Being Selfish, and only making things for my own kiddos
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taycia P'incredible Perennial Pinner 3 years 44 days Joined: 09 Oct 2006 Location: MONTANA!!! Posts: 4239	Posted: 19 Nov 2009 at 11:29am
	i forgot to edit (3 kids LOL) that if you bleach, put it in the hot wash. bleach in the cold prerinse will kill some, but the hot water will help break up the buildup so the bleach can do its job with the trapped bacterias.
	Taycia "The surest way for a mother to get her children's attention is to sit down and put her feet up." mommy to Josephine (10-5-02), Izaak (10-3-05), and Hannah (4-19-08)
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plt Just Pinned Yearlong Pinner 1 year 79 days Joined: 03 Sep 2008 Posts: 3	Posted: 19 Nov 2009 at 8:25pm
	thanks! i have tried bleach before and it helps (with the stink). i guess i'm just concerned that any of these measures i've taken in the past are causing the PUL problem. i actually had BG AIO's last year that had the same problem - after about 8-10 months the PUL failed. but because they were BG, i could get them replaced. so the next time, i bought OS because i can separate the covers from the stuffing... so i did NOT put the covers in the dryer and they still had the same problem!!! this is why i think it has to do with how i'm washing them.
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kickinitbabystyle P'interested Beginner Pinner 101 days Joined: 10 Aug 2009 Location: by the beach Posts: 85	Posted: 19 Nov 2009 at 9:11pm
	The PUL is made to last. Sounds like a manufacturing issue, especially if they haven't been in the dryer. All of them too... shame. I'm sorry mama. If they are less than a year old maybe you can contact the maker and get replacements?
	"A baby will make love stronger,days shorter,nights longer,bankroll smaller,home happier,clothes shabbier,the past forgotten,and the future worth living for" ~u/k Mama to L 9/11/08 & S 9/23/09
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jessmomto2 P'incredible Member Rating(7) P'insane Yearlong Pinner 1 year 314 days Joined: 11 Jan 2008 Location: Keuka Lake Posts: 7126	Posted: Yesterday at 9:36am
	I agree with Taycia about giving bleach a shot. It can be a real life saver. It's been recommended to me to use it in cold water though, and i've found it works better for us that way, versus in hot water. Also i'd pick a detergent and stick with it. Charlie's works great for many people, but it's finicky. You have to use it exclusively on every load of laundry, and even when doing that it will spend itself on removing the Tide residue and not on washing your diapers, for as long as 10 washes. So the switching could actually be your cause of the stinkies. I'd stick with the Tide. Edited by jessmomto2 - Yesterday at 9:36am
	Jess Wife to Rick (5/04) and SAHM to DD (4/02) and DS (10/05). Raising our kids to know and love the Lord.
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plt Just Pinned Yearlong Pinner 1 year 79 days Joined: 03 Sep 2008 Posts: 3	Posted: Yesterday at 10:26pm
	good advice - thank you so much. so, it sounds like things like bleach and extra rinses are NOT the cause of my PUL fail??? since no one else has it? since i had it happen twice, on two different brands of diapers and on the second set they did not go in the dryer... i'm assuming it has to do with how i'm washing them. thanks everyone! appreciate it! patty-leigh
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isaakspacifier P'insightful Member Rating(4) Perennial Pinner 2 years 254 days Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Location: Maine Posts: 2773	Posted: Yesterday at 10:51pm
	I though PUL had to go in the dryer from time to time to re-seal????
	Was the Human Pacifier and Bottle to Isaak Richard from 1/17/07 to 10/22/08. He passed the torch to his sister Norah Riley on 7/11/09. Wife and partner to Michael 3/25/06
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